Is the fight against racism getting better, or has it just moved to a more pervasive, invisible front line? Welcome back to What To Do About, the podcast that trades systemic hand-wringing for grounded, frontline solutions. In this episode, hosts Peter Holbrook (CEO of Social Enterprise UK) and Lord Victor Adebowale sit down with Professor Patrick Vernon OBE to talk about what it actually takes to move from corporate performance to aggressive, enforced human rights.