In this episode of What To Do About, Peter Holbrook and Lord Victor Adebowale sit down with Lisa Stepanovic MBE, the “talent spotter” and founder of Social Arc. Lisa shares her journey from market trader to community hero, discussing the “hard yards” of economic development in East London. The conversation dives deep into the “hidden discrimination” of the British class system and why lived experience is the ultimate tool for fixing broken communities. From challenging “helicopter” funders to pitching a radical new “Community Dividend” for local high streets, this episode is a masterclass in driving systemic change from the ground up.